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we're rooting for them. thank you for watching and have a wonderful weekend. "ac 360 with wolf blitzer" starts now. breaking news the the death toll climbing, the shock waves spreading from egypt's day of anger. live with new developments. also tonight, with this little girl's health and life maybe in the balance chris christie makes a decision on medical marijuana, but is it enough? i'll ask her dad. later, anderson's conversation with oprah winfrey about race, justice, and the "n" word. but we begin with breaking news out of egypt. late this evening the country's state nile tv reporting new numbers, at least 33 new fatalities in cairo and alexandr alexandria, the two biggest cities 180 wounded. the wounded topping 4,000 since. since wednesday there are more than 600 people killed also new on it's facebook page the egyptian military saying they
arrested 440 quote armed men and terrorist unquote. security forces clashing with muslim brotherhood fighters and attacks on christian churches. conflicting information coming in and accusations that cannot be fully verified because of the truly chaotic situation on the ground. some reporters there are calling it urban warfare plain and simple. we're being careful about our reporting and making perfectly clear which are claims, which are solid indisputed fact. one such fact, some opponents of the military government are clearly willing to die for their cause. new video tonight shows it may be very hard to watch. a man what we've highlighted unarmed walking straight into automatic weapons fire. again, this is very tough stuff. you might want to turn away right now.
[ gunshots [ gunshots ]. >> horrible situation. very, very rough day in egypt. joining us now our man in cairo and joins us by phone a member of the opposition a self-described moderate e el hawarwy and arab analyst robin wright at the woodro wilson center. in cairo, many on both sides dead or wounded and squares of churches burned. what's the latest you're seeing on the ground? >> reporter: well certainly a terrible situation on the ground, especially at downtown
cai cairo. what happened as you said they called this the day of rage. the muslim brotherhood and aphysical uaaf affiliated organizations were supported to go to the square and when they reached, clashes started and live fires was used. the egyptian government said there were armed people among the protesters and opened fire. the morsi supporters said the government forces opened fire first, but the clashes went on for a long time. there are a lot of people killed. we're getting information, also, from mosques in that area that there are dead bodies in the mosques and one mosque in that square where apparently a thousand people are still trapped and surrounded by armed people pro-government people and say they are afraid to come out. it was a very chaotic day. i saw some protest marches myself. they were big and went on for a long time. of course, there was a lot of
confrontation and a lot of hay friday in the air. >> the hundreds from the muslim brotherhood have been arrested. you're actually worried, robin, and you and i have known each other for a long time, this country is descending into a period of civil strife, if not civil war, is that right? >> i think we all fear both sides are polarized and there is no middle ground of group of politics who are merging to create an alternative, to urge compromise or broker between the two. the international community had absolutely no impact. the u.n. is sending an envoy to see if there is any ground for compromise, anyway of the inrnational community playing a role and ending the violence. the danger is neither side is willing to compromise now and descends into what we saw in algeria, desen grated into civil war.
>> mike, you say the obama administration has been too passive in it's approach, that it's got to be more concerned about what is happening. what should the u.s. be doing in egypt? what should officials have done? >> i think that we have to be very concerned about the fact that we're basically irrelevant to this process there. i think the first thing we have to do is take a much stronger line with general cc. on the one hand, the muslim brotherhood was definitely taking the country in a bad direction but hard to see how these events will improve the situation. this is basically a return to mubarak and he ran the country into a cul-de-sac. i don't see how this could make it better. >> it seems you could make a strong case the u.s. can't make much of a difference either way, the u.s. influence in this current situation, mike, is relatively weak. >> well, this is something one
hears a lot behind the scenes from the obama administration, but there is an absolute lie certainty, an absolute certainty if you step forward and say i have no influence, i can't do anything, then you won't have any influence and you won't be able to do anything. i totally agreed with what robin said about the importance of developing a third path, and that's what the united states needs to define as it's task. it needs to mobilize the international community and put pressure on cc and the organization and others to create the third path, which would be a process, a poll lit. >> caller: -- political process toward a more democratic future. >> morsi, everyone though he was elected by the people and got 52% in a democratically elected contest. you said there never was a democracy. there was an impeachment, not a
coup. >> president morsi first and only objective was to build the democratic process in i giegypt do that. democracy constitutes there is a constitution that is properly done and represents the organization and secretary policies he was imposing without needing to go to the streets. there was the elected officials that we would trust and do that for us. there was no parliament or due process. he creed himself above the law and constitution and courts. he ran through a constitution that is shameful to any nation through trickery and forgery. so to begin with -- >> let me -- let me -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> he was not running a
democratic democracy. it was a government that was trying to push the country to the ground. >> i know you said the military crack down on the sit down was inevitable and the muslim brotherhood and supporters used violence to be sure against christian churches, but here is the question, does the brutality of the military crack down seem like the right move? even the vice president under the new interim government he couldn't take it anymore and he quit. >> let's understand, the sit down was not disbursed by the military by police force, not by the military at all. we do believe that the police force are extremely brutal, and we have been fighting against the police and trying to inform the police for several years now. we have to remember one thing, the only person and the only authority that had the chance, a
real chance of informing the police was mohamed morsi and muslim brotherhood. it was extremely clear mohamed morsi, while in power, did not want to reform the police force. he actually promoted the corrupted leaders of the police force to use them against his political opponents, and he actually used the police and anti-right police against any protesters and he was imprisoning a lot of activist and killing them while with this supporters all with the police force, and now the police force doesn't have any kind of training or any civil disbursement of violence sit down that was happening with the muslim brotherhood, only the violence they were trained on and had only the tools that mohamed morsi allowed them to have before he was i'm peached. mohamed morsi was democratically
inpeached. we asked him himself to declare the -- >> hold on, hold on, hold on -- >> [ overlapping speakers ] >> hold on a second. you say he was democratically impeeched. a lot say he was removed by the military as part of a coup. mike, what do you say? >> i can't say how this can be called an impeachment. it's a coup plane and simple. everything he said just has to make one stop and say where will this left for egypt or the united states? obviously, the forces are on the ground that are polarized right now in fighting each other. neither one of them is interested in a democratic future. neither one of them is interested in any compromise. it will be up to people outside
egypt to define that path and to put pressure on the egyptians to move toward it. >> the stakes for us -- >> sorry -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> let me bring robin in for a quick question. remind the viewers, robin, especially here in the united states, why the united states provides egypt with a about a billion and a half dollars a year in various forms of economic and military assistance. >> the vast majority goes to the military and a lot of it ends up back in the united states because it's for egypt and training of the egyptian security forces. this goes back to the arab israeli conflict in the 1970s and when egypt began becoming one of the largest recipients of u.s. assistance. the economic development is small. i think as the military cracks down even further, this are likely to be a lot of questions about the use of u.s. equipment, u.s. tear gas, u.s. guns, tanks, armored personnel carriers,
other things put into what what role or coupebility or responsibility the united states has in this and this will be a very tough, i think, in the fall when congress comes back and has to debate the issue of aid. i think administration will come under a lot of pressure from republicans particular lay to reconsider how much aid, particularly the kind of helicopters that have been used for security purposes and to try to control the crowds in cairo. >> robin wright, thanks very much. fred, mike duran, thanks very much. important conversation. a lot more happening tonight, including late developments involving two little girls with their whole lives ahead of them and a whole lot to lose. vivian wilson needs medical marijuana and the decision by chris christie can pave the way. i'll talk to her dad and sanjay gupta. little veronica, the battle
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big, big decision for a sweet little girl. chris christie signalled he'll make it easier for sick children like vivian wilson to use medical marijuana. vivian has a rare and deadly potential form of epilepsy. her parents believe that edible form of cannabis would help, and today the governor, govenor christie said he will sign a bill permitting it with the condition that minors would need approval from a pediatrician and psychiatrist with one doctor registered with the medical marijuana program. digging deeper with brian wilson
and sanjay gupta, a claim documentary weed area tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern. mr. wilson you've been trying to convince him to come around to your point of view for some time now and indicate he would allow wider use of medical marijuana if the legislature made changes to the bill, but you feel his decision does not go far enough. tell us why. >> well, right, wolf. the -- one of the provisions was about the doctor's approvals. it makes the steps for the law and status quo, it makes heartache and headache for parents to go shopping around for medical marijuana to get them to sign up for this. for parents already going through a lot of trouble just with their children, they have to go through the extra step. you don't have to go through any other medical condition -- or any other medication.
vivian already has her doctors. our concern is for parents that might be needing this. >> tell us about how this decision in your opinion will effect your daughter. you're happy with some of the changes the governor's decision brings about, but because your daughter will be likely to get medical marijuana in a form that she can take, is that right? >> correct, overall, you know, this was a victory for us but not all the patient in new jersey. the lifting of the three-strain limits was a huge victory for us and everybody in the state. the edibles was just really confounding decision on the edibles. we didn't expect that. i don't think anybody was expecting that. they are only allowing expanding edibles for children or minors. so there is jackson storms up in new jersey who has her condition and he's 14 years old and in four years he has to smoke now. he can't really take a candy because he's on the same diet.
for vivian she'll have what he needs. >> sanjay, i want to play some video we have of brian's daughter and i want to warn viewers, it's hard to watch. in it vivian is having a seizure. sanjay, will medical marijuana help stop these types of seizures? >> i think there is a good chance that it could. i mean, look, i think both sides agree we need more research into this area, but that research has been hard to come by. you're dealing with a substance that is illegal at the federal level. it's hard to do research on adults, let alone children. i'll tell you, wolf, what brian is describing with vivian is a form of intrackable epilepsy, just very hard to treat. brian described vivian has been on several different medications, i believe seven medications. >> right. >> and none of them working. i've seen a similar situation and brian knows as well with charlotte figi in colorado
having some 300 seizures a week, and was able to benefit from medical marijuana where she did not need any of the medication she was taking. >> based on the reporting you've done, sanjay, for your documentary, what do you make of mr. wilson's concerns, particularly about getting a psychiatrist involved in prescribing this kind of marijuana? what do you say about that? >> in july, from my understanding, govenor christie, really, i thought was leaning the other way and would not let new jersey become like colorado or california. i think this has been described as a victory of sorts in a way, and i think it is. when brian talks about the fact there won't just be three strains in these dispensaries, that's important. when we talk about these strains, we talk about a specific strain that can help vivian and helped charlotte that is high in cbd and low in thc which is the stuff that is psycho active. that's important. that strain is important. the fact it can come as an oil,
instead of having to smoke it, obviously very important. >> brian wilson, good luck to you and especially good luck to vivian. thanks very much. sanjay, thanks as well. >> you got it. thank you. >> thank you. for more on this story, go to cnn.com and a reminder sanjay's remarkable documentary weed area at 10:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. up next, where is veronica? a judge ordered her biological father to bring her to court today so her adoptive parents could see her. he did not. dramatic day of court hearings, high emotions in a heart-breaking custody battle. the battle over new york city's stop and frisk policy took a twist today. we'll tell you what happened. you make a great team.
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"crime and punishment." in oklahoma a dramatic day over the battle of veronica whose fourth birthday is weeks away. her face and name is familiar to many of us now and so is her story. two families fighting to raise this little girl. both love her furiously thanks is clear. it's spanning two states, two cultures and a law aimed at protecting indian children. her biological dad is part cherokee. after digging in and speaking only through lawyers, the two
families met face-to-face in a courtroom. veronica was supposed to be in that courtroom, as well. a judge ordered her biological dad to have her there by 9:00 this morning but that did not happen. randi kaye is joining us now. randi, almost all of the players there today, but do we know what happened? >> reporter: well, wolf, this was highly unusual and a very secretive hearing. so we don't know much. as you said, the state ordered dustin brown to be there by 9:00 this morning and was supposed to bring his wife, parents and veronica. he was supposed to hand her over as the state ordered to the capobianco. everyone showed up but veronica. dustin brown looked very sad after leaving the courtroom. his mother, veronica's biological grandmother was shaken and in tear when is they left and adding to the drama
were protesters outside that said native american children aren't for sale and keep veronica home. it was an interesting situation. >> there was also, randi, a second court hearing today in triable court since dustin brown is a member of the cherokee nation. >> reporter: right. that hearing had actually been scheduled at the triable court to determine guardianship, which was a red flag for the cadoptiv parents. that's why they got that hearing. they weren't supposed to be at the triable court hearing but were there because there was a mediation agreement. finally, wolf, two sides are talking. that hearing also lasted for hours. dustin brown left there looking very different, very stoked. he left there pumping his fists in the air holding these traditional native american sticks. when the adoptive family leapt,
they looked worn out. i asked if they plan to see veronica tonight and didn't answer me. the protesters yelled things like go back to south carolina and veronica doesn't belong to you. a tense situation. >> what happens next? >> reporter: simply put, it's unclear. i mean, right now this has somehow grown into a multijurisdiction l problem and fight. you have south carolina and the adoptive parents agree the adoption is final and they should have the little girl and dustin brown and oklahoma, he wants the oklahoma courts to step in and that's another jurisdiction and has a limited time to get them to act and the cherokee nation because he's a member of the cherokee nation. they somehow think they have a role in this and think they can get guardianship or control. everyone wants a piece of this little girl, no matter how the u.s. supreme court rules, it's getting mess sier by the day. >> thanks for that report.
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tonight more of the big "360" interview. anderson's candidate conversation with oprah winfrey and about in america and the movie that brought her back to the big screen for the first time in 15 years. that movie opens in theaters today. it's called "lee daniels, the butler" and based on the true story of an aftrican american
butler that served over three decades in the white house. it's told on the backdrop of the sieve rights movement. he sat down with oprah and forrest whitaker. part of that conversation was about the meaning of words, the ones we use, and the ones we choose not to use. look at this. it's the "n" word in the film, it's used very early on. it's not just use the by the guys on the plantation but lbj. >> uh-huh. >> which in those lbj recordings you hear him use it and the film there is a scene where people in the kitchen are saying, see him on tv saying negro and somebody says like when did he start -- >> ken -- >> when did he start to use that word? he always uses the "n" word? >> yeah. >> was that hard for you sni know you've spoken publicly about the importance of not using the word. >> it depends on the context of the time in which you were raised. i was raised in the '60s and --
>> in mississippi. >> yeah, and i'm a -- not only that a student of my history. i've said this many times, it's not a part of who i am to use that word, i understand why other people do. it's impossible for me to do it because i know the history, and i know that for so many of my relatives whom i don't know, who i don't know by name, people i'm connected to, my ancestors, that was the last word they heard as they were being strung up by a tree. that was the last sense of degradation that they experienced as, you know, some harm was caused to them. i just -- it's just not a part of the fabric of who i am. so out of respect to those who've come before and the price that they paid to rid themselves of being relegated to that word, i just don't use it.
>> i understand lee daniels said that he used to use the word, and you two had a discussion -- >> i said lee, you ain't going to be using that word around me. lee, no you're not going to use that word around me. and i think it's used appropriately in the film. i mean, i think, you know, in the moment where the clearance williams character slaps the young butler and says don't ever use that word because that word is filled with hate and my character, this is really how i personal feel and my character sitting on the sofa with terrance howard and says don't you call my son a nigger because he ain't a nigger, that's exactly how i feel about it. don't you use that word because that's what i am. >> do you see the difference people that use an a at the end of it as opposed to an r. >> uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh you're
talking salmon ticks. where i am and where i come from i don't use it. jay-z and we disagree. >> when you hear it in songs -- >> i'm not listening to those songs. you don't think i'm going around listening to the songs where it's being played all the time. i'm not. i just personally am not. >> a few other cultures took this word and use it as a term of endearment. i challenge them for us to see that occurring in other cultures, and i think we need to, you know, to make ourselves strong and whole. >> i can't imagine i don't know what the slang or the word was used by the notzis towards the jews but i can't imagine the jewish taking that and using it. it feels like it would be dishonorable to the people who made everything that you have
possible. >> and to you it's the same thing. >> yeah, to me it's the same thing. but, you know, i've been -- >> i would never -- obviously, i'm the whitest guy on the planet -- >> [ laughter ] >> i would never in a million years use it. >> he couldn't use it. >> right. >> but no -- >> you have no street credit whatsoever. >> i like to keep it real on my own street but yeah, no -- i mean, to me it's the equivalent of, you know, i'm obviously, gay, it's equivalent of somebody saying fag, that's not a word -- >> that you use. >> that i ever use in -- even among other gay people. the film, it really traces the movement for equality, civil rights over -- i mean generations really. >> uh-huh. >> where do you see -- >> eight presidents. >> where do you see that? i talked to julian bond the other day who sees the fight for gay and lesbian equality and same-sex marriage part of the continuing of that. do you think it is? >> we have to look at any infringement, you know, whether
it be religious issues, whether it be cultural, you know, profiling or anything of that nature we have to fight against it so we can become whole and release the fears, so that we can become what we were suspected to be or hope to be this is -- this is our thing. eliminate fear. eliminate fear. >> this discussion about racism will be over when we do exactly what forest just said and he limb nate the fear within ourselves and also about each other. all the years of the oprah show, one of the things that i understood very clear, anderson, is when i would get criticism about the black community, you need to do more shows about race, you need to be talking more about black men, i always knew you did more to break down the barriers of racism if you do a show on parenting and had a black father on who -- and you had videotape of him putting his
child to bed and reading his child. i knew you did more to help the gay movement by having gay parents on with their children who were just like all the other parents than doing a show about what it's like to be a gay parent. because what people need to see, which is exactly what we do in this film is we really are more alike than different. >> fascinating conversation. certainly a lot to discuss with my next guest. bet michaela angela davis and brandon dean. thanks to both of you for coming in. michaela, oprah says the use of the "n" word depends on the context in the time you were raised but you feel this word is a totally different word. explain. >> no, i feel like different generations see it as a totally different word, and i feel like this word particularlily really articulates a generational
divide when rachel jeantal shows a different attachment to the word. i see, i recognize this generation seeing this as two entirely different words, and i also recognize their perhaps sense of pride and pleasure in having power over a word that they know that they can say that white people can't say. so there's -- it's a very complex -- it's -- no other word in our language has been this loaded, and we've seen black youth culture take words that were negative and turn them around like dope, ill, and gangster are three of my favorite words to explain something good. so we have this as a historic tradition of black youth culture taking language and turning it on it's head and making the
generation clutch pearls and cool but no word is like this word. >> andre, you made a decision to personally not use the "n" word. so why is that important to you? >> because i formed an attachment and appreciation for the people who suffered under the systems that created that word. now remember, the "n" word was -- was part of a system of oppression that included lynching, the fact that george -- segregation and a number on other devices used to oppress people. and so when people don't form an attachment to the suffering, the very real suffering that people have experienced over decades, over sen kucenturies, it shows of appreciation for culture that those words represent and the system they represent. so for me, it becomes very unlikely for anyone who understands the history of the word to use it so loosely because it's not about using the word. we can use multiple words, but
when you don't understand the words and the history, you use this loose language and use it irresponsible and that's why oprah and people like myself and others cringe when we hear rap songs spew the word without a sense of history. >> you do point out and you did during the debate about removing that word from the novel "adventures of huckle berry fin." you felt keeping the word in the novel was, in fact, appropriate. why is that usage appropriate? >> because it really allows people to see where the word came from, and the system of oppression that it came out of. certainly when i learned the "n" word, i read it in the context of huck fin. we read the word aloud and said it 100 something, 200 something times in that piece of literature but it gives
grounding of how black people are seen and how white people see blacks and a sense of how you internalize those concepts. the important piece here is particularly after the zimmerman trial and trayvon martin tragedy when you talk about unconscious bias and racism that we understand the power of words. if we understand words are vessels of culture and truly want to change culture, we got to change the words that carry it. >> but i -- i think there is a real culture that the youth and hip-hop culture have, too. they have their own sense of history. they have their own sense of understanding, and i think what is missing is we're not having cros generational cross cultural conversations with people that use the word and feel its sense of detachment or empowerment. we're looking down from privileged spaces often, not engaging them and becomes a class thing.
so when the oprah's of the world or bill cosbys of the world look down on a culture and say you shouldn't ever shouldn't use that word, it's very difficult to take a word out of popular culture. it's very difficult to take a word out of the imagination of people. what we do have to do is engage them and understand -- let them understand the context and then see what they do with it. but to just say that i read it in huck fin or that i read it in an educated or social space that the kids that use it or the generation that brought it back into public use aren't a part of that, we need to engage them, and this is -- this word has created a divide and it could create a reason for us to really engage both cultures because it really has become a class divide, as well. >> michaela angela davis, perry, thanks, a good discussion. appreciate it. information about the man that abducted 16-year-old hanna
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latest. what is going on, chat? >> if you can ask anybody in the deep south about this summer, it has been wet. there has been no sunshine. my tomatoes never grew because they never saw sunshine. it's been a swamp down here. some spots picking up twice as much rain as they should have for the summer so far. more rain south of atlanta into north florida tonight. for the next couple days, we have a stalled front across the south. and that means like a stationary front and bike, things won't move. where it starts to rain, it's going to rain for days. even tonight, there could be 4 inches of rain over west of tallahassee. the red and pink, 6 to 10 inches of rainfall just from the moisture coming off the gulf of mexico pex and not even including the tropical system that you were talking about. >> well what about this tropical potential? what is going on there? >> yeah, it doesn't have a name. if it gets a name over the weekend, it will be fernand
because felix was used up six years ago and retired. that's where fernand came from. the computer models are all over the place from new orleans to mexico. mexico is the best guess, at least for right now and the best possible scenario because it doesn't stay in the water long. my concern with this, wolf, is if this stays in the gulf of mexico for 48 hours, it could be a big storm and then you roll that wind over places that are going to get 6 to 10 inches of rain, these trees will be falling over like dominos. >> what a system. okay. chad, thanks very much for that. >> susan hendrix is back with the 360 bulletin. susan? >> letters from hanna hander son to her kidnapper james dimaggio were found at his burned home. according to an affidavit, contents were not revealed in the document. now authorities also seized ammunition, a gas can, arson, wire, and much more from that
home. the senate judiciary committee will hold a hearing about privacy breaches. new documents linked by edward snowden show the agency broke privacy rules thousands of times each year since 2008. a second former ohio football player convicted of raping a 16-year-old girl is a sex offender. he must report to the local sheriff's office every six months for the next years. wolf back to you. >> thank you. coming up, have you ever heard a lion bark? anderson is next. he's got "the ridiculist."
have you heard the one about the lion at the zoo? it ridiculist time. here is anderson. >> time for the redick list. we're adding the lion exhibit at a zoo in china. here it is. check out the lion exhibit. the majestic animal himself, the african lion, the king of the jungle known for the roar which someone managed to capture on
vide video. >> yeah, it's a dog. apparently the lion that's usually in that enclosure was off at a breeding center getting a little something, something and the people who run the zoo thought maybe nobody would notice if they replaced wit a dog. there was a dog in a wolf pen and a fox in the leopard exhibit and just to compare, african lion to mastiff. it's hard to tell the difference. if you try to pass off a dog as a lion. you can do worse than the mastiff but better, in january when people called 911 about a lion. >> norfolk, 911 what where is your emergency? >> i just saw an animal that looked like a small lion, had the mange and everything -- >> i just saw a baby lion in collie avenue and 50th street.
>> there is a baby lion that ran across the street. >> okay. >> it was about the size of a lab door retriever. >> the calls were in regards to a labradoodle man's best king of the judge. he's awfully lion looking with the haircut i would say but this begs the question, if you try to pass off a parking an ma'am as a lion, why not at least use something from the feline family? >> that, by the way, is a cat that barks until it notices it's being videotaped. that's right, it's happening, the animals taking over. get ready everyone. it's happening. next time your cat meowss don't trust it. they could be lion to your face. get it? >> i got